Services Progressive Baptist Church SUNDAYS AT PROGRESSIVE We'd love for you to join us at our Sunday Services! James Meeks announced Sunday that Pastor Charlie Dates of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago will succeed him as leader of the 10,000-member Salem Baptist Church of Chicago when he steps out of the role in January 2023. Dr. Charlie Dates became the youngest senior pastor at Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago in 2011 at age 30. We want to walk with you and your family in every step of the way. James Meeks next year as senior pastor of Salem Baptist Church one of Chicago's biggest megachurches. Meeks, a former state senator, founded Salem Baptist 38 years ago. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". Its fair to say that I understand the dynamics of congregational leadership and development in both churches. The only outcome can be from their life experience, which really ignores the broader family of Southern Baptists.. If thats idolatry to youwe can disagree. They are happy to have a Black chapel speaker, the occasional conservative Black professor whose classes are not taken seriously or a Black employee who never bucks against their notions of superiority. Many cannot even define what CRT is, he tweeted. 3658 SOUTH WENTWORTH AVENUE, CHICAGO, IL, 60609, 773-268-6048 | INFO@PROGRESSIVECHICAGO.ORG. What happend to your, well Jesus called the Pharisees wolves and a whole lot other mean words' defense (like when Trump called people sons of b*tches and a**holes)? Show Progressive Baptist Church Podcast, Ep Great Expectations | Joshua 14:6-15 | Pastor Bryan Carter - Jul 26, 2022 Warren announced his intention to retire last year after over 40 years of ministry and began the search for "the next-generation pastor.". The Rev. But there is nothing wrong with loving those who I do have personal relationships with, and have really left an impact on my faith, family, and heart. Perhaps I need to know whats defined as a megachurch? . The SBCs power structure wants to maintain white dominance. Dates response to the controversy was that its not racist because its between black people. "I sense God performing a work of His Spirit that connects Salem to churches that need revitalization. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". I would caution ANYONE who makes ANYONE their everytying including a spouse or child. He is married to Kirstie Dates and is the proud father of their children, Charlie Edward Dates II & Claire Dates. Dubois, Frederick Douglass, Harriet Tubman, Sojourner Truth, and Mary Mcloud - Bethune, Dr. Charlies orientation and early formation were significantly bent toward the theological reflection of Black people. By clicking Accept All, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. I was shocked, but not surprised, when Mohler endorsed President Trump and watched the two men on Reformation Day celebrate each other on Twitter. Charlie Dates serves as the senior pastor at Progressive Baptist Church and teaches at Moody Bible Institute as an adjunct professor. This was why I felt it safe to forge an alliance. Hmm. Susan Robinson is a 100-year-old Black woman and lifelong member of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago, where I am senior . James Meeks next year as senior pastor of Salem Baptist Churchone of Chicagos biggest megachurches. So he is going to pastor two large churches in addition to teaching at several colleges. Chuck Smith himself, who started out as every kind of salt and light, found himself tempted by the limelight as he got bigger and bigger, and we saw more and more of his flaws as time went on. You talked a bit about both churches significance to Chicago. . What challenges do you anticipate with the dynamic of pastoring two congregations? Charlie Dates is set to succeed Rev. Feel free to watch our services online! Wow, I never knew this, did TRR ever do an expose of this incident? And if you have a testimony of the amazing things God is doing in your life through our ministry, please email it to info@progressivechicago.org. Salem has not lost its relevance, Salem has not lost its edge, while maintaining a very high view of Scripture and its very Christo-centric approach to ministry. I dont know anything about Pastor Dates using a slur I havent heard anything about it, nor do I know anything about the context, response, or outcomes. My acknowledgement of this is not a statement of submission, but an act of defiance. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. But there are others who sit close to power within the SBC and who are silent against the racism that plagues their own congregations. Have you ever dreamed of owning a home, but don't know where to begin? There is no such thing as the Old Southern Baptists.. I dont see anything wrong with loving those who Christ calls us to love, which includes our brothers and sisters in Christ (that includes pastors). The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". But what a blessing to the members of both congregations. Photo courtesy of Progressive Baptist Church I respect the importance of Christian denominations, the. So, I propose to you that we need a new organism, not led in full by white men; a Christian collective that makes room for the essentials of the faith and the diversity of the Church; a robust engine that finances the impoverished sides of the Church, speaks justice courageously to the government and cares gently for the oppressed, marginalized and women. As I prayed through it, Reverend Meeks and I wrestled with it, and he graciously affirmed my sense of discernment. So we decided to cooperate and join our church to the SBC in what is known as a dual affiliation. I believe now that the time has come for me to yield to a younger person.. He has a bachelor of arts degree in speech communication and rhetoric from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign; a master of divinity degree and a Ph.D. from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield, Illinois. Nationally known pastor Rev. And if you have a testimony of the amazing things God is doing in your life through our ministry, please email it to info@progressivechicago.org. Meeks' retirement comes at a time when many longtime church leaders have been transitioning out of leadership as they contend with dwindling attendance and other ministry upheavals laid bare by the COVID-19 pandemic. The mega church concept is already troublesome. 2023 ChurchLeaders.com, All rights reserved. Please click here to learn how. Its been anchored in the community. I go where God leads me not Charlie Dates. Charlie Dates is the Senior Pastor of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago, IL. Subscribe to CT for less than $4.25/month. Cancel culture is wrong but shouldnt we have heard something about it at least? After the retirement of its founder James Meeks, fellow South Side pastor Charlie Dates will become senior pastor of one of Chicagos biggest megachurches, Salem Baptist Church, returning to the ministry that shaped him as a kid and succeeding one of his greatest mentors in the faith. I understand both sides, but havent thought about it enough to have a strong opinion, probably because I dont use those terms. Dr. Charlie Dates will take his place. Our city and our nation need the black church to be her best and brightest self and now is the time for churches to be strong," he said. To invite Dr. Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. The Social Justice Ministry is here to help through our Gospel Justice Center Legal Clinic. And while Progressive is a large congregation (around 1000 members), it doesnt come close to Salem (which has about 10,000). As one Conservative Baptist Network member said, they must constantly repent but can never actually be forgiven., A group of Southern Baptist pastors released a statement Friday voicing their opposition to any movement in the SBC that seeks to distract from racial reconciliation through the gospel and that denies the reality of systemic injustices.. Before his call to Progressive, he served as an apprentice pastor at New Zion Baptist Church in Rockford, Illinois, and as a pastor at Salem Baptist Church in Chicago. He is a contributing author to Letters To A Birmingham Jail and Say It: Celebrating Expository Preaching in the African American Tradition, and is currently working on his first single-authored book on Christianity and Social Justice. There is a HUGE problem with adoring a pastorany pastor, even a truly great one. Im not in the weeds at Progressive. Sad, but not at all surprising. If I can help these churches recognize Gods hand in their past as a kind of indication of God, of what God wants to do in the future, then I think I can hand it off to the next generation in good fashion. I cant speak for them. Let us know how we can pray for you and your family. If you sense the malaise around Christian denominations, then you already yearn for a new vision and a new standard. Theres just no way you can pastor a church that big being involved in all of the details, right? That was the message Sunday from the Rev. It is good that you were ministered to personally by your pastor. That would just be weird. On one hand, the legacy has to continue. Its time for Salem to have younger leadership . Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? "It's Alright to Cry"| Pastor Charlie Dates | Progressive Chicago by Pastor Charlie Dates. Help keep The Christian Post free for everyone by making a one-time donation today. That is a concerning statement. Charlie has 1 job listed on their profile. In 2011, he became the youngest senior pastor at Chicagos Progressive Baptist Church. One of the benefits at Progressive is that the operations of the church and systems and structures of the church, the day-to-day operations, are free to move independent of me. Thats the good ol boys club. Yeah thats in bad form. Shouldnt a competent, strong, wise pastor stir and challenge his flock, make their complacency seem uncomfortable? 11,909 were here. I think that there is a place in the body of Christ for large and small churches alike; I have been a member of both at various points in my walk with Christ, and can speak to the benefits and challenges of both. Both have spoken at Moodys annual Founders Week conferences. To invite Dr. Chicago needs the Black church to be her best and brightest self. But in this instance, youre actually bothered (I guess Uncle Ruckus is what crosses your line, but not sons of b*ches or a**holes) AND questioning Charlie Datess salvation? Their seminaries have hosted outstanding guest faculty and chapel speakers outside of their norm. Ill be here every Sunday and through the week as I normally am, Dates said. To correct us from repeating errors and to inspire and to encourage us to pursue Gods great promise. Brian How will your role there look different? Not able to make? And I dont even go to Progressive, which is less than 15 minutes from my home (closer than my current church home). Adoring sounds like its crossed the line into idolatrysomething a lot of these guys at bare minimum do nothing to discourage, and a few outright seek. From your posts (especially the prior one to this), it almost seems like your biggest qualification for a pastor is whether he or she makes you feel good; warm and fuzzy. But the bones are good. I need to say that this is not an ambition of mine. The beauty of this narrative is that the Lord, in his kindness and his grace, has taken pastors and churches to develop me. "There is a young man in our midst who is an exceptional preacher," Pastor Meeks told congregants Sunday, calling Charlie Dates both "called" and "qualified." SBC events and church planting have grown more diverse over the past decade as leaders made a concerted effort to feature and invest in non-Anglo pastors. How do you use that significance, and history of these two churches in the city, to drive the future? 3658 SOUTH WENTWORTH AVENUE, CHICAGO, IL, 60609, 773-268-6048 | INFO@PROGRESSIVECHICAGO.ORG. None of our denominations, Black or white, are as relevant and biblically prophetic as our present age requires. How did they, who in 2020 still dont have a single Black denominational entity head, reject once and for all a theory that helps to frame the real race problems we face? Dates wrote in an op-ed Friday for the Religion News Service. "It's time for Salem to move forward. It took a while for it to reimagine and revitalize and become relevant again. This workshop will cover everything from home buying basics to the most important step, funding and loan process. When we make one man or woman our everything, bad things are bound to happen. Were living in a time where so many young people are walking away from the church and where church attendance numbers are in the dumps. I respect the importance of Christian denominations, the accountability and resources they provide for the larger body. . Calling him "the greatest young preacher in our nation today," Rev. I wonder how many of them provide full time paychecks. When did the theological architects of American slavery develop the moral character to tell the church how it should discuss and discern racism? It just isnt where God has me in this season of my life (yet). . Charlie Edward Dates became the youngest Senior Pastor in Progressive's rich 95-year history. I recognize this moment is big, and its watershed, but it is not about me. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. Rev. He continued his education with a Master of Divinity and a PhD in Historical Theology from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield, Illinois. For the second time in two days, a prominent Black pastor has publicly quit the Southern Baptist Convention over its seminary presidents' campaign against Critical Race Theory. Perhaps you are taking on a worldly definition of love? In just our brief 15 minute interaction, he really ministered to me as he correctly sensed I was going through a season of loss that was challenging my faith. Progressive Baptist Church. They both, in that regard, have a history of absolutely incredible pastors. It was the first time to my knowledge that white evangelicals had celebrated in concert the life, memory and work of the Rev. In the early discussion around the seminary presidents statement, which released last month, SBC president J. D. Greear recognized some of the issues with such emphasis on critical race theory (CRT) itself. Our seminaries, many of them are in decline. They are selectively conservative. @progressivechicago | @charliedates |. Progressive was around WAY before Charlie Dates; it was not founded or based on his teachings alone. Chicago Pastor James Meeks to Retire, Pass Baton to Rev. Charlie Dates is the senior pastor of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago. And if you think it feels good, warm and fuzzy to be confronted about your sin when youre in the middle of grief, you are VERY mistaken. RELATED: Southern Baptist seminary presidents nix critical race theory. The young people I met that week shocked me with the warmth and enthusiasm with which they embraced the subject matter. If I idolized him, dont you think Id have followed him to his church YEARS ago when I first me him? 1 is my itinerant ministry will take a reduction, and I will be present locally a lot more, which Im looking forward to. He was elected in March by an overwhelming majority, the largest vote received by any pastor in Progressive's rich history. COMMENTARY: Six white men shouldnt decide Southern Baptist position on race. (I cant imagine having NEVER met your pastor one-on-one). To learn more about how you can begin or deepen a relationship with Jesus Christ, visit us at ProgressiveChicago.org . Now we have 2 churches thinking only one particular man can lead them. In 2020, Dates, married with two children, was among a number of black Christian church leaders to cut ties with the Southern Baptist Convention over a statement from the denomination's Council of Seminary Presidents denouncing racism and critical race theory. (Dr. Charlie Edward Dates is the senior pastor at Chicagos Progressive Baptist Church. Book your appointment here. The resolution clarified the theory could be employed, but only subordinate to Scripture.. He holds a PhD in Historical Theology from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School.
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