You and your self-interested cronies don't get to decide what type of jobs people choose to take. @Wendy B Gates - Breeze didn't specifically tell me I'm too old, they said I was overqualified. You can't have a million dollar dream with minimum wage work ethics. . Interesting model. I'm a 'union guy' for sure. 8 hours reserve gets 4 hours of pay $38 per hour. This arrogant capitalist needs to be forced to live in poverty too. No one is forcing applicants to accept pay they don't like. This combination of low salary and high demands cannot be good for retention. Airfare provided to go home monthly. All rights reserved. Why are we encouraging a race to the bottom? The race to the bottom continues. ), what most likely happened after you got your paralytic and your anesthesia is some slightly tired, fresh-face resident came in to practice his/her craft on you. Not Germany, France, the UK, Japan, no one. I think a lot of Airlines would be happy to have the pilots at 55 instead of 75. 8 hours reserve gets 4 hours of pay $38 per hour. A job that solves the problem of housing takes an enormous number of costs away from young people, and the "$1200 salary" needs to be evaluated in that context. 1) Free Housing! Yep.when there is an emergency on board and seconds or mistakes can mean the difference between life and death, what I want is a bunch of 20 something overgrown teenagers with absolutely no investment in their jobs in charge! At this point, offset the difference by instructing or other commercial needs. I have no doubts in my mind that they'll increase it in time, but they need a few years of profitability under their belt first so they can justifiably offer higher hours/pay. This job is not nor intended to be for every young person. I explained more in my previous posts. Monty, I interviewed at Breeze a few months back. I applied for a ticket/ramp/gate/baggage handler position and got the job. Are they taking advantage of the pilot supply right nowprobably so, because they can, but to claim they're being "exploitative" is a stretch in my opinion. So they only want young, pretty, college girls and completely straight acting College guys? Does New Carrier Breeze Airways Pay Pilots Enough. Unfortunately flying is something easy to be passionate about, and the industry takes advantage. document.getElementById( "ak_js" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Just as the cure for high prices, are high prices, the cure for low wages, are low wages. Thanks for update !! The company hopes to take flight just over two years later, with service launching later this year. The article also fails to factor in per diem amounts and the tax advantage that goes with that. Maybe its just SPS. I am quite happy Doctor Kendor didn't get too comfortable in some cushy union-enabled physical therapy gig offering an artificial pay scale and relentlessly reinforcing an artificial sense of self-importance. At Breeze, we want to empower and support our Team Members so they can, in turn, empower and support our Guests every step of the journey. The airline should do fine, at least up to a certain scale. 1) Free Housing! I hope it does not come off the ground and if it does, it goes bankrupt after a week. I think the best way for this airline to implement their business model is to pay for its pilots training from 0 hrs to 1500 hrs and then these pilots can work for them at their pay scale that will make more sense. With the A220 entering service in early 2022, the company will rapidly expand its network throughout the US and beyond, creating new base opportunities, very attractive lines of flying, very quick upgrades, and excellent quality of life. . Breeze Airways will initially fly Embraer 190s, but eventually plans to operate a fleet consisting exclusively of Airbus A220s. Finally, Breeze needs to get its financial footing or their employees could all be forced out on the street. The airline carrier has opted to utilize a fleet of Embraer 195s. Hey. Nevertheless, Breeze Airways is still on track to launch in the US in the first quarter of 2021. Would you like to buy a filet mignon sandwich that we can hand deliver to you in your seat? Just add all these fun little add-ons where you can just click yes, yes, yes. And we can just keep dinging the credit card.. So Breeze may hire twentysomethings and train them, so what? This is how young doctors learn their craft in America and all over the world. It's exactly what I have been saying for years. Makes sense, and given right now there is a surplus of supply of pilots in the market they are able to lower wages to increase profits and thus be more likely to succeed. I interviewed with them for cabin crew You must be enrolled at Utah Valley University full-time and maintain 3.0 GPA. Maybe there are ancillary benefits/travel privileges' that are enormously valuable to some people. I'm much more concerned about the pilot pay scale than whatever arrangement Breeze works out with its FAs. Young, unattached, few opportunities, and committed to finishing school in 4 years. And its an immediate tip-of-the-hat to what their culture will be based onmoney is king, you dont matter. Interesting, @EMBCAPTN. This would be less cringey if there would be incentives for the flight attendants to move into positions such as pilots or air traffic control. Does the fact that all FA positions are, looking at the website, classified as "part-time" allow them to avoid paying for health insurance? Copyright 2005-2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. They are offering an employment model that will appeal to some people and no other airline can/will match it so the cost differences should be sustainable. Not Verified | Breeze is an interesting new airline with pros and cons. It's not like America's legacy airlines are immune to hiring very young, very inexperienced people. Maybe it really is a part-time gig and would be a good fit for a great many people. *The whole "Home Monthly" is based on operational needs and must be scheduled 3 weeks prior. For a certain person, this could be an ideal job. 2) housing: I am curious what housing? I hope he's prepared to pay pilots a real premium, otherwise why go to a startup when the legacies will be hiring big-time. Breeze's minimum qualifications The basic requirements to become a Breeze pilot come down to flight hours. Please use the form below to contact our customer service or sales team. P Glotzer (United States) 1st March 2023. There will be scheduled 1% pay raises on September 15, 2023, and September 15, 2024. Wonder what theyll pay their mechanics and pilots??? Breeze Airways - Pay Scale Update. Most professionals are comfortable with the idea of a starter job, and aren't looking for a father figure in their employer to guide them gently into old age. Failing that, they were determined to not pay one dime more than their competition. I suppose they could be selling the dream of having high seniority at the airline as it grows, with hope of better pay in the future, but. The airline is expected to start selling tickets any day now, and I know many of us are curious about what the Salt Lake City-based carriers first routes will be. Past Flight Receipts. My airline had a trip that left LGA early in the morning to CMH. This article mentions and quotes minimum monthly guarantee, but fails to show the pay for picking up extra flying. To eat while traveling. Even liberal-minded folks who support workers grow to hate the rhetoric surrounding unions and union actions. The airline is hiring both pilots and flight attendants, given that its close to launching operations. Because expanding the monthly rate to 75+ is done so much easier and instant, than hirring another 200 pilots or so. But it may be a great opportunity for some as I said for 1-2 years for a young person. At least, I can't find that information. Would much rather have spent my time working for peanuts high in the sky, and jetting to interesting places. Have you gone to college? Their value is astronomical. I dwelled on my sad fate at length. @Samuel - Housing is a big plus and at Breeze it is included. I do not believe for a minute service will be worse than economy on AA or UA. New airline Breeze Airways releases hourly wage numbers. 35 developed countries around the world have better healthcare than the USA and many of them don't leave their citizens without a safety net. That minimum guarantee is just that, a minimum. I could have worked for the also defunct Pilgrim Airlines. 1) Against unions: not every employee is good at negotiating. Dolts.read the whole article. Does the hourly rate even amount to minimum wage? Chances if you have surgery, you already have. Where do I sign up? If the labor model is as stupid and exploitative as you seem to believe it is, it will fail. @samuel. There are a finite quantity of qualified pilots and the barrier to entry for that work is significant. maximum takeoff weight), Note: PIC is defined as Captain or Aircraft Commander of record, not simply the sole manipulator of the controls, Valid FCC Radiotelephone Operators Permit, Must have or be able to obtain a valid U.S. drivers license, Must have or be able to obtain a valid passport, Must be able to travel unrestricted to and from the United States, Must pass a DOT pre-employment drug test, Must have authorization to work in the United States as defined by the Immigration Reform Act of 1986, MyIDTravel (preferred), or list at the gate, Monthly Pay Guarantee for Line Holders: 70 hours, Monthly Pay Guarantee for Reserves: 70 hours. Stay connected with the latest travel, aviation, and credit card news. *Layovers will be rare (mechanical issues, weather), trip planning will be turns out and back same day. Keep working at it, maybe you'll can find an unpaid internship on Arsenio. An initial slate of 39 routes across 16. Maybe housing benefit becomes a retention factor, but beyond that the high turnover seems like it would risk leveling out the reduced labor costs. Clearly Breeze has already figured out that people who fall into their trap will regret their circumstances; that's why Breeze is also making them sign a 4-year contract. I'll have fries with that, thanks. Our normal business hours are Monday-Friday 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. (Pacific Time). You could sit around half a day, everyday, and not get paid for it. Not if you wanted good work done. Minimum wage in Utah is $7.25/hr and cost of living there is pretty low. The significant wage difference may be in anticipation of the economic recovery process ahead. Forgot to add to my previous post that it is two person corporate housing with private bedrooms (think Residence Inn by Marriott, like SkyWest training). MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands 3.Enough may feel 1. How will Breeze compensate flight attendants? First year SkyWest pilots make more than Breeze pilots. FAs are there for your safety: The younger the FA, the stronger they are. Four major career destroying events in 20 years. Of course, what's needed is a severe pilot shortage to really change up the whole industry. I can't always trust a computer system to give me the perks or pay attention to the details I care about. No Per Diem. Breeze Airways is a new airline that's expected to launch in the US in early 2021. The most important sentence in this article is this the only reason to become a pilot at Breeze is if you have no other options. It's that, or FO Adam absolutely nailed it. of Labor requires that to classify a worker as an intern, the intern has to be the primary beneficiary of the position, not the company. Breeze Airways insights Based on 31 survey responses Areas for improvement Fair pay for job Support from manager Overall satisfaction Bad leadership Customer Service Representative (Former Employee) - Salt Lake City, UT - February 13, 2023 Breeze has potential as a start-up. That sounds part time and probably better since you are getting paid for all of your time. So, that will be difficult. He must anticipate a lot of employee churn and be okay with that risk, deeming it worth the extra-low cost structure and less likely to result in speedy unionization, if it leads to it at all. This might work in the short-term, but the moment that demand recovers, the airline is going to have to significantly increase pay, or it will risk having pilots leave in droves. They can earn $40,000-$60,000 a year, cut you open, and often perform your entire surgery under the direct and indirect supervision of attending physicians, who are more experienced and make more like $350,000 to $700,000 a year. Feel sorry for the FAs but this guy could be either a genius or just throwing at the wall to see what sticks. Eight hours plus. Ben -- one thing that seems to be missing from your calculus and the comments: equity. Since most flight attendants are women - it also shows how Neeleman views females. Employees pay for their school and housing, but Breeze gets the tax savings. As in, Gompers? Therefor your flight attendant is going to be exhausted/probably not happy and definitely not rested enough to perform optimally in an emergency. For a college student, this beats the shit out of working at the mall. 2. There is not a lot to do these days in an aircraft cabin. If a for-profit-company hires someone and calls an "intern," that person is still an employee and subject to all of the requirements of the FLSA, Breeze Will Pay Flight Attendants $1,200 Per Month, Wants To Ding Your Credit Card Ben Schlappig Published: April 29, 2021 Updated: August 12, 2022 99 With Avelo Airlines having launched operations yesterday, Breeze Airways is expected to be the next US airline startup to begin flying. American would attempt to get the lowest pay rates in the industry on comparable equipment. This year is unique in pilots employment, but when the majors start hiring again, they will love poaching all the pilots from Breeeze! Airline startup Breeze Airways is set to offer Pilots uncompetitive pay in comparison to the rest of the airline industry. Beauty: Not in the job description, but undoubtedly a plus from a marketing perspective. Im a bit confused. Add to that COVID and these poor guys will have NO CHOICE but to fly for these asshats. Split a very inexpensive room with one or two others and have a fun time. If "older experienced flight attendants" feel somehow entitled to higher pay or don't like the legal work conditions or don't like the fact that being a flight attendant inherently means time away from family, that is not Breeze's problem. Not sure if labor pool for whom the model fits is really large enough to support high turnover baked into the model or can support scale to provide regular flight frequency but we'll see. In youth I worked fast food full-time for many years. 6) When I have a lay-over in some capital of commerce, I may even be able to interview for my next great adventure for once I graduate! Not exclusively, but the idea of a University education is as much participating in a community of students as it is sitting in classrooms. I have no idea if they will be paid CA or FO rate while flying the right seat though. Is this essentially age discrimination? Could happen. The $1200 a month is not really a salary, but rather a stipend for a college-like experience while interning as FA part time. Criticizing workers for lack of professional ambition is part of our toxic "professional achievement & success, income as identity" culture, especially where there are so many ways to live fulfilling lives that are not defined by constant growth of income. They pack you in like lemmings in the dorms And you're worried about the quality of housing? I liked the idea of them providing housing so I didn't have to scramble to find a crash pad or sign a lease somewhere. The salary is 22.50 an hour sounds good but there is so much you don't get paid for that other airlines do. Housing and travel to/from work provided. The Dept. Or what if you decide to get children? Free housing with huge tuition reimbursement. And Moron #27 it's an INTERNSHIP.not a career. And I'm not convinced a bright college student can't get the job done. Actual flight time? Even if/though they get corporate housing (which could also be really dismal) they've still got to pay for food. *Layovers will be rare (mechanical issues, weather), trip planning will be turns out and back same day. But its gross. Yes, I am hoping for the best for this start up! *Layovers will be rare (mechanical issues, weather), trip planning will be "turns" - out and back same day. I'll work my fingers to the bone as an intern but a stipend of $1,200 a month won't go far with a medical emergency. Please view our advertising policy page for additional details about our partners. . Everyone should apply. However, if there's a recovery in airlines and given there was a shortage of pilots before I'm not sure this pay scale is going to last full time. There are many young people that lack the $$ or choose not to go into debt (student loan/s) for a traditional higher education. Years ago right out of college I worked as a contractor on-site at one of the biggest technology companies in the world. The Breeze pilots, once hired, will see the minimum hour guarantee as a point of shame and quickly set up union representation. Death to racist capitalism, Life and good health to the international working class. Flight Attendants are hired because they are qualified to provide safety & service. Also, Breeze Airways may be a good solution for a pilot who only wants to rack up 55 hours each month with a lighter workload. FO Adam absolutely nailed it. Captain 1st year $192 and $203 in year six. Guest Service Plan. Of course this wont last as the market rebounds, but the die will have been cast for what they think of their employees. Posts: 36,185. Flew my 4day trip and took a Delta flight departing at 12:25am to MSP and connected to MDW. No guests. The low cost price they originally show you is a scam. No per diem or overnight trips means you can forget about exploring any new cities (not that you could afford to do anything in another city anyway). We spend $100K plus on flight training plus college for most of us. Some will likely say that Breeze Airways proposed pilot pay is the free market at work, with so many pilots furloughed or laid off. And they likely will try to launch with no union, am I right? Before we get into the details of Breezes pilot pay, and compare it to pay at other airlines, note that: First year Breeze pilots will make $36,300. Please view our advertising policy page for additional details about our partners, Theyll receive $6,000 towards tuition for online coursework, Expect most Breeze tickets this summer to cost well under $100 one-way, When Breeze takes delivery of A220s later this year the airline will offer a first class, and expect those tickets to cost an extra $50-100 one-way, Breeze will charge $20 for checked bags on flights under three hours, Breeze wont charge change or cancelation fees, Breezes trip costs will be 25-30% lower than for competitors with A320s or 737s, While Breezes Embraer aircraft will have 108-118 seats, the airline will be able to break even when selling just 60 seats, Since the lease costs on Breezes planes are so low, the airline can afford to keep the planes parked during the week when demand is low, and fly them primarily on weekends, when demand is much higher, It sounds like Breeze is going to have an unheard of cost structure that will put virtually any other airline to shame; if the airline can really break even with a 50-55% load factor all while operating fairly small planes (that are easy to fill), Breeze will be a force to be reckoned with, Breeze is claiming that technology will be a true point of differentiation, though I feel like virtually every airline executive claims that about their own airline; only time will tell if this is all talk, or if Breeze has done something that no other airline has successfully done, Its so strange to me how Neeleman is known for building airlines with incredible corporate cultures and employee morale, where employees are able to grow with the airline, while hes seemingly taking a different approach with Breeze; I wonder how Breeze will evolve over time.
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